On Religion
2011-06-21 · John · watch on YouTube · Philosophy & meaning · reflection essay
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2011 videos did not pass the QA gate (17 %); their analysis is shown but less reliable.
John argues that people of all faiths and none live in functional nihilism yet all feel called to meaning; debating whether God exists avoids the deeper question of how to bring meaning to human life, which religion and secular humanism both answer.
What is said
00:00:00 — Why the brothers avoided religion; John's chaplaincy and divinity school enrolment
- ★★ In the description John invites viewers to continue the conversation about religion in Your Pants (yourpants.org). — 00:00:00 · Your Pants
- ★★ Nerdfighters often ask whether the brothers are religious; they have been reluctant to discuss it because the quality of internet discourse about religion is atrocious. — 00:00:01 · Nerdfighteria
- ★★★ A decade ago John worked as a chaplain at a children's hospital, and he was briefly enrolled in, though never attended, the University of Chicago's divinity school. — 00:00:10
00:00:29 — Functional nihilism: we act like nihilists but feel called to meaning
- ★★★ John submits that almost all human lives are lived in functional nihilism: very few believe life is meaningless, but almost all act as if they did. — 00:00:29 > «functional nihilism»
- ★★ John could use his mind for cancer research, novels or quantum mechanics and his body to plant trees or fight wildfires, yet spends free time on TV, games and lols. — 00:00:47
- ★★★ Christians, Muslims and atheists alike share this worldview: almost none would give up comforts to help others, so judged by actions humans look like nihilists. — 00:01:16
- ★★★ But we are not nihilists, John says, because everyone feels called to make the world better, understand the universe, make art and contribute; everybody wants their life to matter. — 00:01:32
00:01:44 — Why John won't debate God's existence: the fire analogy; religion and humanism answer the call to meaning
- ★★★ That call to meaning founds religious and successful secular worldviews alike, which is why John doesn't care to debate the existence of God. — 00:01:44
- ★★ Analogy: woken by smoke and an invisible voice shouting that the house is on fire, John wouldn't care whether the voice was God or a fireman; he'd just leave. — 00:01:56
- ★★★ For John, debating the mere existence of God is a way of avoiding the deeper, more devastating question of how to bring meaning to human life. (hedged) — 00:02:12
- ★★★ John thinks religion is essentially a response to revelation calling us to embrace meaning, or create it if it doesn't innately exist; the same holds for atheistic humanism. (hedged) — 00:02:21
- ★★★ Everyone faces the same question, what to do with our consciousness: fight poverty, climate change, disease or war, or spend everything on a perfectly manicured, weed-free lawn. — 00:02:32
00:02:46 — Aside: John's neighbour and the lawn
- ★ John is on a lawn kick because his next-door neighbour is unhappy that John left the country for two months during lawn-growing season; the lawn is full of dandelions. (playful) — 00:02:46
00:02:58 — Balancing meaning with funny stuff; Nerdfighteria asks these questions through many lenses
- ★★★ John: how to balance the urge to be more than nihilists with blunting consciousness's sharp edges through funny stuff like Paula Deen riding Paula Deen riding him, or Humpy Hank. — 00:02:58 · Hank Green
- ★★★ Nerdfighteria has discussed these questions for years, some through a religious lens and some through a secular one; the lens interests John less than the questions. — 00:03:10 · Nerdfighteria
00:03:20 — Baby rhinoceros, 36 sandwiches as penance, sign-off
- ★★ Apologising that the video had few jokes, John shows a baby rhinoceros and, as penance, says he will eat 36 disgusting sandwiches on Friday. (playful) — 00:03:20 · Punishment
Threads in this video
- open · John invites viewers to continue the conversation about religion on Your Pants (June 2011) — John's description invites viewers to continue the conversation about religion in Your Pants. (00:00:00)
- restate · Does human life have real meaning, given oblivion, cosmic scale and an indifferent universe? — John: judged by actions humans look like functional nihilists, but everyone feels called to meaning, and how to bring meaning to human life is the deep question. (00:01:32)
- refine · Does God exist, and is religious faith worth having? — John declines to debate God's existence: it avoids the deeper question of meaning, which religion (a response to revelation) and atheistic humanism both answer; the lens matters less than the questions. (00:02:12)
- update · John's two-month move to the Netherlands (April 2011) — John's next-door neighbour is unhappy that John left the country for two months during lawn-growing season; the lawn is full of dandelions. (00:02:46)
- callback · John: Tumblr is the top destination for images of Paula Deen riding him, the title bit (2011) — John cites 'Paula Deen riding Paula Deen riding me' as funny stuff that blunts the edges of consciousness. (00:03:01)
- accept · John: punishment earned by Nerdfighters getting Helen Hunt to see Hank's Helen Hunt video (2011) — John says that, as penance, he will eat 36 disgusting sandwiches on Friday. (00:03:24)
- accept · John: punishment for not posting a video on Wednesday (May 2011) — John's commitment to eat 36 disgusting sandwiches on Friday joins Hank's two proposed punishments (a 35-plus-part video and gross sandwiches), so it also accepts this one. (00:03:24)
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