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Is there really an 'us' and a 'them', or are distant and different people just facets of us?

Axis: there is no them ... groups really are separate / other

John

date change position video
2008-04-08 new John: there is no them, only facets of us; poverty is an us problem, and the children in Bangladesh are part of us. Nerdfighting in Bangladesh 00:02:20
2008-11-06 new John says political opponents are not evil, terrorists or fascists but complicated people who contain multitudes just as you do. On Loving One Another or Dying 00:02:24
2009-03-15 restate John says the Rwandans abandoned in 1994 were treated as 'a them' and should now be told 'you are not them, you are us'. Lighting a candle for Rwanda 00:01:23
2009-07-13 restate Against 'they're all Muslims who want to destroy America', John says Islam, like every religious tradition, is not one monolithic thing. On Iran, Islam, and Amazingly Stupid Comments 00:01:56
2010-09-20 restate John holds that critical reading shows there are no easy definitions separating 'us' from 'them'. Life Is Like Pizza 00:03:00
2010-12-17 restate John says humans habitually imagine distant people as fundamentally other, but Nerdfighteria has learned they are not, seeing people in poverty as part of us. PROJECT FOR AWESOME 2010: Save the Children and Partners in Health 00:01:23
2011-06-24 restate John says religious labels can't cleanly divide people: someone in every tradition will deny you belong, and he shares more theology with some Muslims than with many fellow Christians. On Religion (Redux) 00:01:50
2012-11-04 restate John says imagining those who disagree with us as crazy, evil or traitorous makes compromise, listening and even friendship hard, and insult-driven politics is more dangerous than either plan. Policy and Politics: Brotherhood 2.0 Week Begins 00:02:55
2012-12-17 restate John says children dying in poverty are not fundamentally different from his son and are not 'other' because of where they were born. THE PROJECT FOR AWESOME 2012 IS HERE! Save the Children. 00:01:50
2013-04-16 restate John: national flags make others a them, but the marathon's side-by-side flags stand for a larger us that does not require a them. Flags and Helpers 00:00:58
2013-12-17 restate John says the refugee children are worth investing in and, though far away, are still our neighbors. THE PROJECT FOR AWESOME 2013 IS UPON US! 00:03:15

Hank

date change position video
2007-06-29 shift Hank says TV commercials had led him to see poor people as too downtrodden to relate to; meeting the women, he rejects that: 'they're totally just people'. How to be a Microfinancier Part 2 00:01:55
2008-04-10 new Hank, picking up John's 'us problem' video, rejects the hierarchy of needs: people without food still care about others and doing good; they just can't. Barack John Obama Green 00:01:57
2009-03-18 restate Hank says we should show Rwandans we see them as neighbours, friends and 'one of us', with hope for their future like ours. Lighting Candles for Rwanda 00:01:45
2010-12-21 restate Hank feels P4A shows we are all people being people wherever we are and whatever our circumstances, with implications beyond P4A. Thoughts on the Project for Awesome 00:03:12
2011-12-17 restate Hank says the Haitians he met are, in the important ways, exactly like him and his friends and family. We Built a Well in Haiti 00:00:00

Timeline notes

  • Hank: first recorded event is shift (earlier stance may be outside 2007–2013 or unrecorded)