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Can humans build artificial intelligence?

In 2010 Hank thought AI would need brain software we don't understand; in 2023 he changed course, expecting a living computer within his lifetime, and in 2026 said humans may not stay the only thinking entity. Since 2022 John has held that computers are nothing like human minds.

Axis: humans can and will build it ... it is far harder than believed or impossible

Positions by date: 9 records in 9 videos. shift and revise mean the position moved; tension — disagreement with the other speaker.

John

date how position video
2022-12-06 first on record John's biggest worry: computers are nothing like us (we are far more like kangaroos), and as AI improves we may see human consciousness and cognition as digital rather than organic, a big mistake. AI tells me if AI will write novels. 00:02:55
2024-08-27 restate John calls that a nonsense analogy: computers doing what corporations instruct is fundamentally different from humans doing intellectual labor, though he concedes the point is arguable. How The Internet Is Rigged 00:00:29

Hank

date how position video
2010-04-05 first on record Hank thinks artificial intelligence would require writing the software that runs our brains, whose complexity we dramatically underestimate and whose workings we don't understand. Google in your Brain 00:02:10
2021-08-20 restate Hank says the AI's answer on where to start eating a bicycle feels very uncanny valley: it seems to think it knows what being a person is like but doesn't. Question Tuesday Except I'm an AI 00:02:24
2023-01-06 shift Hank says it seems humans will make a living computer sometime in his lifetime. After 12 hours in LA I'm a stand-up comic doing ASMR with a side gig as a music promoter 00:02:35
2023-03-31 refine Hank says human history has never had 'counterfeit humans': entities that cannot do everything humans can but seem human, and can pursue goals in unpredictable ways. The Coming AI Invasion 00:02:05
2023-04-04 restate Hank says an ecological metaphor lets us look ahead: things unlike anything before will travel through society, feeling human but not human and unable to do everything humans can. April 4, 2023 00:00:00
2024-08-02 restate Hank predicts artificial minds will be a huge part of daily life; he does not know what the relationships will look like, but people will find them normal. My Letter to the Future 00:02:51
2026-06-05 restate Hank says humans might eventually not be the only thinking entity on the planet, nor the only source of strength or intelligence. The Things We Don't Discuss 00:10:56