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Rules: punishments and the four-minute rule

The channel's rules as recorded in the videos, their descriptions and creator comments: every punishment and challenge thread with its events, every reference to the four-minute rule, and every video longer than four minutes. Overview

Rule changes

Launch, proposal, rule-change and suspension events on the channel's rule threads, and the later look-backs on them.

Punishments and challenges (51)

Status from the last recorded event: performed: 41 · changed, no report it was done (2011–2026): 2 · disputed: 1 · set, no report it was done (2007–2026): 1 · accepted, no report it was done (2008–2026): 1 · changed, no report it was done (2008–2026): 1 · changed, no report it was done (2009–2026): 1 · set, no report it was done (2011–2026): 1 · set, no report it was done (2012–2026): 1 · accepted, no report it was done (2015–2026): 1. Viewers were asked for punishment ideas or votes in 31 ask threads.

2007 (16)

2008 (9)

2009 (4)

2010 (3)

2011 (7)

2012 (6)

2013 (2)

2015 (1)

2016 (1)

2018 (1)

2019 (1)

The four-minute rule

Video length by year (registry durations; YouTube often adds a second, so 4:01 is a borderline case).

year videos median length over 4:00 over 4:10 longest videos mentioning the rule breach punishments
2007 258 3:21 10 9 THE NERDFIGHTER HAPPY DANCE PROJECT 9:33 5 0
2008 130 3:51 18 13 Happy (Belated) Birthday, Hank 10:00 12 3
2009 185 3:31 10 4 So Jokes: Video EP 15:51 3 1
2010 157 3:40 10 9 HANKO DE MAYO!!!!11!! 11:54 3 0
2011 155 3:45 7 6 Reading Chapter One of The Fault in Our Stars 30:22 1 0
2012 111 3:40 2 2 Understanding the National Debt and Budget Deficit 6:33 3 0
2013 107 3:50 8 8 An Evening of Awesome at Carnegie Hall 179:47 9 2
2014 114 3:50 4 4 Food Is Weird: Understanding Agriculture in the Developing World 7:18 5 0
2015 115 3:49 7 7 Benghazi: Explained 9:25 5 1
2016 114 3:44 14 14 Understanding Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton's Tax Plans 10:34 2 1
2017 113 3:52 11 11 John Reads the First Chapter of Turtles All the Way Down 10:30 2 0
2018 109 3:54 4 4 Hank Reads from 'An Absolutely Remarkable Thing' 19:54 2 0
2019 110 3:56 9 9 What /Actually/ Happened at Chernobyl 13:30 6 1
2020 108 3:56 6 5 So Much to Do 28:27 4 0
2021 106 3:57 7 7 We're Thinking About Facebook Wrong 21:42 4 0
2022 108 3:56 8 8 The Biggest Climate Bill of Your Life - But What does it DO!? 22:23 5 0
2023 107 4:18 60 57 John and Hank Hanging Out but they Keep Getting Younger and More Pixelated 165:54 5 0
2024 114 5:14 92 86 Sipping the Tea with Hank 58:36 1 0
2025 107 5:48 93 90 White Noise For Charity - Torc Waterfall in Ireland - Sleep, Study, Focus!! 726:23 1 0
2026 95 5:47 92 92 Project for Awesome 2026 part 3! 556:54 0 0

Every reference to the rule (spoken, description or creator comment)

2007

2008

  • 2008-02-08 · QUESTION TUESDAYS (On Friday) (4:01) — John confirms he is still sticking to the four-minute time limit. (00:03:36)
  • 2008-03-27 · PEEPS Eating Contest Is Peepstacular, Painful (5:26) — In the description John suggests the photo montage lets him go over the usual length, i.e. past the four-minute rule. (playful) (video description)
  • 2008-04-21 · Belated Book-tacular Questions (4:01) — John says Hank will be punished too: he lost the Peeps contest without participating and made a video over four minutes without a photo montage, which breaks the rule. (playful) (00:00:00)
  • 2008-04-24 · Pills Pills Pills (4:00) — Because the brothers are strict about the four-minute rule, Hank made two versions; the full five-minute one is posted elsewhere on YouTube (channel name unclear). (00:03:41)
  • 2008-05-11 · Nerdfighting IRL (4:53) — Hank says he went over time but has been granted amnesty because the video had a montage (several). (playful) (00:04:12)
  • 2008-06-24 · Questions Answered! (3:45) — Hank is making a Star Trek song longer than four minutes that he can't shorten, so he invokes the longer-than-four-minutes clause, which requires a Nerdfighting montage. (00:03:12)
  • 2008-07-18 · Book Eight...Another Harry Potter Song (4:48) — Hank pre-empts punishment for going over four minutes: there was a montage, and the montage exception covers it. (playful) (00:04:36)
  • 2008-08-12 · Eight Days of Awesome (4:39) — Hank admits the video is longer than four minutes and says he will accept whatever punishment John sees fit. (00:04:09)
  • 2008-09-13 · Hank Vlogs (and a String Quartet) (8:02) — Hank acknowledges the quartet will make the video too long but says it is okay because it is pretty much a separate video. (playful) (00:03:30)
  • 2008-10-14 · Paper Towns Reading (9:19) — John says the video will go over four minutes but he will get around the rule with a montage. (playful) (00:00:56)
  • 2008-10-22 · Punish Hank? Save Hank? YOU DECIDE. (3:50) — John notes Hank's previous video was 4 minutes 16 seconds long and expects a 'weird semantic argument' against being punished. (playful) (00:00:36)
  • 2008-10-22 · Punish Hank? Save Hank? YOU DECIDE. (3:50) — John says Hank's 4:16 video contained no montage, which is clearly against the rules. (00:02:00)
  • 2008-10-22 · Punish Hank? Save Hank? YOU DECIDE. (3:50) — On the phone Hank argues his video was 3 minutes 50 seconds; the rest was black space because the song ran longer than the video track. (playful) (00:02:32)
  • 2008-10-24 · Talking to Myself (3:53) — In a phone skit with another Hank, Hank says he can see 'their point' and concedes his video was technically longer than four minutes. (playful) (00:00:00)

2009

  • 2009-08-04 · Twitter Games and Truth or Fail (3:53) — Hank hopes to fit all the sentences in, maybe not given his four minutes, and muses about working them into a song 'written by Twitter'. (00:01:22)
  • 2009-11-22 · Hank in FAMY (2:53) — John says Nerdfighteria has long wanted to punish Hank, but Hank keeps the rules: a video every Wednesday, a song every other Wednesday, never more than four minutes. (playful) (00:00:29)
  • 2009-11-22 · Hank in FAMY (2:53) — John says that when Hank does break the rules, as when he briefly uploaded a seven-minute version of his Severed Hands of Star Wars video, he argues he broke the letter but not the spirit of the law. (playful) (00:00:59)
  • 2009-11-22 · Hank in FAMY (2:53) — After Hank posted a video of four minutes and two seconds last week (week of 9 November 2009), he called John saying the overrun was only the subscription screen and that he is on tour. (playful) (00:00:59)
  • 2009-12-01 · Shaving for Pakistan (3:59) — John reports a Nerdfighter's calculation that the extra two seconds of Hank's punished video, watched about 55,000 times, cost Nerdfighteria 26 hours; 'we want our 26 hours back'. (playful) (00:03:03)

2010

2011

2012

2013

2014

2015

  • 2015-02-10 · Understanding Boko Haram (6:17) — In the description John gives the 'standard reminder' that educational videos are allowed to be over four minutes long. (video description)
  • 2015-10-16 · Post-NerdCon Haze (3:58) — Hank says in 2007 the Vlogbrothers imposed an artificial four-minute limit on their videos, as arbitrary as the 24-hour day, and it's great they stuck with it. (00:03:28)
  • 2015-10-23 · Benghazi: Explained (9:25) — Hank says they have made videos like this since the beginning of Vlogbrothers; he likes being able to go past the time limit, but they are hard and stressful to make. (00:07:31)
  • 2015-12-11 · The Refugee Crises: Project for Awesome 2015 (4:38) — John says Hank always tells him to make an end screen, and admits the video ran over four minutes, so he will probably be punished and accepts it. (playful) (00:04:22)
  • 2015-12-29 · How to Give Away Over a Million Dollars (2:42) — John playfully asks whether Nerdfighteria will really punish him because his video about refugee camps in Ethiopia ran over four minutes, calling them monsters. (playful) (00:02:22)

2016

2017

  • 2017-01-03 · 10 Years on YouTube (...and MORE GREAT NEWS) (3:53) — Since Hank's last 2016 video went over four minutes without being educational, there is a vlogbrothers punishment for the first time in years, to take place live on stage at NerdCon: Nerdfighteria. (00:02:59)
  • 2017-08-29 · 40 (3:13) — John says next week's (week of 4 September 2017) video, his reading of the first chapter of Turtles All the Way Down, will be over four minutes but is not punishable, citing precedents from 2011 and 2008 when he read the first chapters of The Fault in Our Stars and Paper Towns. (playful) (00:02:51)

2018

2019

  • 2019-01-29 · Do You Believe in Miracles? (4:00) — In a comment John says the 4:01 runtime is no punishment: YouTube has added a second since 2007, and by precedent 4:01 videos are not punishable. (creator comment)
  • 2019-03-22 · How to Get a Colonoscopy (7:44) — Editing on the Friday of his colonoscopy, Hank says the video is at least educational and hopefully leads more people to screen for colon cancer, which is why it runs over four minutes. (00:06:55)
  • 2019-05-10 · The Worst Product Ever (3:56) — Hank says he accidentally uploaded a Hank's Channel video to Vlogbrothers that ran over four minutes, so he has another punishment brewing. (00:03:24)
  • 2019-07-19 · In Which Hank Consumes the Juice of Over 400 Gushers (3:59) — Hank says that at VidCon he did his punishment for uploading a 4:02 video meant for Hank's channel to Vlogbrothers: drinking the juice of Gushers. (00:00:29)
  • 2019-09-17 · 'end the stigma' (4:00) — In a comment John says the four-minute rule constrains videos like this one; the brothers have been reluctant to propose eliminating it. (creator comment)
  • 2019-12-13 · Is This the Cutest Animal Noise? (3:55) — Replying in a channel comment to a viewer who felt the video was setting up a longer lesson, Hank says this is life under the four-minute rule. (playful) (creator comment)

2020

2021

2022

2023

  • 2023-01-13 · Why is There an Egg Shortage (And More) (4:00) — In a comment, Hank says he very occasionally hits the length exactly, but usually records 4 to 4:30 minutes and cuts down; over 5 minutes is a big problem. (creator comment)
  • 2023-02-24 · The P4A 2023 is The Hottest Club on the Internet (18:01) — Hank opens his Project for Awesome 2023 meme review of things people made and submitted to the P4A art folder, again taking an extra-long video. (00:00:00)
  • 2023-06-20 · Reflections from a Terrible CEO (5:15) — In a channel comment John says the four-minute rule is off at least until Hank gets better, since 4-minute videos take too long with the current workload. (creator comment)
  • 2023-08-08 · TAKE IT UP A NOTCH (4:47) — John explains that since 2007, with a few exceptions, their videos must be under four minutes, a rule to force concision and intentional use of people's attention. (00:02:55)
  • 2023-08-08 · TAKE IT UP A NOTCH (4:47) — John likes the four-minute rule: it helped him become a better writer, and without it The Fault in Our Stars would have been about a hundred pages longer and not as good. (00:02:55)
  • 2023-08-08 · TAKE IT UP A NOTCH (4:47) — John says that since Hank's diagnosis they have suspended the four-minute rule for more flexibility, which he kind of loves; this video will run over four minutes. (00:03:42)
  • 2023-08-08 · TAKE IT UP A NOTCH (4:47) — John is a little conflicted: he understands the rule is important and long-standing, and one reason they have been able to make things for so many people for so long. (00:03:42)
  • 2023-08-08 · TAKE IT UP A NOTCH (4:47) — John asks viewers to decide, via a poll linked in the description, whether the brothers should continue the four-minute rule. (00:04:11)
  • 2023-11-07 · NaFaDoYBIMSCoM (4:28) — In a later channel comment, John says he thought about cutting the video to four minutes but concluded it would have made it worse. (creator comment)

2024

2025

  • 2025-05-02 · I Found the Dumbest Time Zone (6:11) — The description says Hank wanted a normal 4-minute Vlogbrothers video but feels he has lost that skill: it is hard to tell a story that fast and cut good material. (video description)

Every video over four minutes

The length links to the four-minute mark; a long video is not by itself a breach (exceptions are listed above). "Says" quotes what the video, its description or a creator comment says about the rule, if anything.

2007 (10)

2008 (18)

2009 (10)

2010 (10)

2011 (7)

2012 (2)

2013 (8)

2014 (4)

2015 (7)

2016 (14)

2017 (11)

2018 (4)

2019 (9)

2020 (6)

2021 (7)

2022 (8)

2023 (60)

2024 (92)

2025 (93)

2026 (92)