John: large language models will earn Google billions while the users whose content made them possible get nothing (2024)
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In August 2024 John predicted that large language models will earn Google billions of dollars while the users whose content made them possible get nothing.
About: large language model, Google
| date | event | what | video |
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| 2024-08-27 | predicted | John says these language models will earn Google billions of dollars while the users whose content made them possible get nothing. | How The Internet Is Rigged 00:05:21 |
What is said about it
7 statements, by date (the events above are the turns of the thread; these are the details).
- 2024-08-27 · How The Internet Is Rigged — John notes the counterargument: some say this isn't stealing, since language models ingest web information as people do, just as he might turn reading about tuberculosis into an original book. — 00:00:10
- 2024-08-27 · How The Internet Is Rigged — John says that relationship is now at risk because Google has, as Hank pointed out, in a very roundabout way basically admitted to stealing the content of creators to train language models without permission. — 00:05:05
- 2024-08-27 · How The Internet Is Rigged — John says this is obviously bad for people who create intellectual value, whether making YouTube videos or writing comments. — 00:05:30
- 2024-08-27 · How The Internet Is Rigged — John says it also harms the user-generated internet and the social order by concentrating capital and power in fewer hands, which history shows tends to work out terribly. — 00:05:40
- 2024-08-27 · How The Internet Is Rigged — John: As a first way forward, John says Google, where employees have a lot of power, could see the light, stop taking creators' content and start paying for it. — 00:05:59
- 2024-08-27 · How The Internet Is Rigged — John: As a second way forward, John says creators could unionize, as Hollywood creators did in the 1920s. — 00:06:06
- 2024-08-27 · How The Internet Is Rigged — John calls it insane that online we are governed not by governments but by corporate terms of service. — 00:06:10