Thoughts for Nerdfighteria
2013-10-15 · letter vlog · John · 3:18 · watch on YouTube
Topic: Nerdfighteria · mode: Personal essay · tags: community lore, punishment or challenge, on location
John notes Nerdfighteria is growing fast and fears that communities growing without deepening become less important; he recommits to making things together with Nerdfighteria rather than chasing size, starting with his own punishment.
What is said
The parts of the video and what is said in each (★ — how much it matters to the video).
00:00:00 — 12 seconds of silence to shed low-engagement viewers
- ★★ John says a YouTube employee told him almost all so-called low-engagement viewers decide whether to watch a video in the first 12 seconds, hence his 12 seconds of silence. — 00:00:13 · YouTube
00:00:28 — In rainy Amsterdam: Nerdfighteria is growing (views, books reaching grandmothers, Crash Course, SciShow, Mental Floss, the YouTube feed)
- ★ John is in Amsterdam, which only looks impossibly beautiful; when it starts raining he goes inside. — 00:00:28 · Amsterdam
- ★★ John says the brothers' new videos have averaged over 600,000 views in the past month, views being the easiest metric of a video's success. — 00:00:32 · Vlogbrothers
- ★★★ John says Nerdfighteria is growing in lots of ways, e.g. his books are reaching a much larger audience than he ever imagined. — 00:00:56 · Nerdfighteria
- ★★ John now regularly gets all-caps emails from 80-year-old grandmothers whose retirement-home book clubs read his book, asking what happens to Anna's mom; he welcomes more old people in Nerdfighteria. (playful) — 00:01:01 · The Fault in Our Stars, Nerdfighteria
- ★★ John says Crash Course, SciShow and Mental Floss all have large and growing audiences. — 00:01:20 · Crash Course, SciShow
- ★★ John says the way people find YouTube videos is changing: a feed instead of a subscription box shows more videos from unsubscribed channels and fewer from subscribed ones. — 00:01:25 · YouTube
00:01:35 — Fear that communities growing without deepening become less important; Harry Potter fandom as the model; recommitment to collaboration
- ★★★ John fears that as communities grow, especially without deepening, they paradoxically often become less important. — 00:01:35 · Nerdfighteria
- ★★ John's example: many people watch Two and a Half Men, but its community is far less interesting and important than that of the much less popular Supernatural. — 00:01:43
- ★★ Bigger need not mean less important: Harry Potter reached a large audience, yet its core fans, who listened to Wizard Rock and started the Harry Potter Alliance, made lasting changes in the world. — 00:01:52 · Harry Potter (book series)
- ★★★ If Nerdfighteria keeps growing, John wants to make sure it grows like the core Harry Potter community. — 00:02:05 · Nerdfighteria, Harry Potter (book series)
- ★★★ John says they realized years ago that fame is not very fulfilling, but making stuff you like with people you like is tremendously fulfilling. — 00:02:09 · celebrity
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★★★ John recommits to Nerdfighteria that the channel is truly a collaboration among all of them. — 00:02:18 · Nerdfighteria
“I want to make that recommitment to nerdfighteria that this is truly a collaboration among all of us.”
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★★ John thinks they should keep making videos explaining health care costs, sovereign debt and the war in Syria, and videos about things they care about, like the TFiOS movie. (hedged) — 00:02:24 · The Fault in Our Stars (film)
- ★★ John also wants to make good, funny, nerdy things with Nerdfighteria, starting today. — 00:02:34 · Nerdfighteria
00:02:39 — Our Pants rules his over-four-minute video not educational: John punished; rules for new viewers; punishment suggestions wanted
- ★★★ John says his last video ran over four minutes and Nerdfighters in Our Pants ruled it not educational, so he is punished. — 00:02:39 · Four-minute rule, Punishment
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★★ For new viewers John explains: Our Pants is the forum; videos may not exceed four minutes unless educational; he likes pizza, Hank corn dogs; Nerdfighters fight to make the world suck less. — 00:02:47 · Four-minute rule, world suck, Nerdfighteria
“nerdfighters are nerds who fight to make the world suck less”
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★★ According to Our Pants both brothers already owe punishments, so both are punished and John doubly. — 00:03:00 · Punishment
- ★★ John asks Nerdfighters for lots of punishment suggestions in the comments. — 00:03:05 · Nerdfighteria, Punishment
00:03:08 — Thanks for the update video; excited for Emma Approved; sign-off
- ★ John says he is very excited for Emma Approved. — 00:03:13 · Emma Approved
Threads in this video
- refine · What is the community for? — John says growth without deepening makes communities less important; Nerdfighteria should grow like the Harry Potter core community, as a collaboration among all. (00:02:05)
- restate · Is fame good for the people who have it? — John restates that fame is not very fulfilling, unlike making stuff you like with people you like. (00:02:09)
- set · John: punishment for his over-four-minute health-insurance video, ruled not educational by Our Pants (2013) — John reports Nerdfighters in Our Pants ruled his last, over-four-minute video not educational, so he owes a punishment. (00:02:44) → refers to Applying for Health Insurance: Then and Now
- accepted · John: punishment for his over-four-minute health-insurance video, ruled not educational by Our Pants (2013) — John accepts that he is punished. (00:02:47)
- asked · John asks Nerdfighters for punishment suggestions in comments (2013) — John asks Nerdfighters for lots of punishment suggestions in the comments. (00:03:05)
- milestone · SciShow: launch of Hank's science channel (2011) — John says Crash Course, SciShow and Mental Floss all have large and growing audiences. (00:01:20)
- set · Hank: his punishment owed under the 2012 Kiva deal, performed as the science of pain (2012) — According to Our Pants both brothers already owe punishments, so both are punished and John doubly. (00:03:00)
- milestone · Mental Floss YouTube channel, made with John and Hank (2013) — John says Crash Course, SciShow and Mental Floss all have large and growing audiences. (00:01:20)
Where the stories that moved here went next
- John: punishment for his over-four-minute health-insurance video, ruled not educational by Our Pants (2013) — performed
- John asks Nerdfighters for punishment suggestions in comments (2013) — reported back; last: result reported, 2013-11-08
- Hank: his punishment owed under the 2012 Kiva deal, performed as the science of pain (2012) — performed
- SciShow: launch of Hank's science channel (2011) — running; last: looked back, 2026-05-22
- Mental Floss YouTube channel, made with John and Hank (2013) — last documented in 2014 (looked back on in 2025)
Mentioned
Central: Punishment
Also: Projects: Crash Course · Our Pants · SciShow
Works: Emma Approved · Harry Potter (book series) · Supernatural · The Fault in Our Stars · The Fault in Our Stars (film) · Two and a Half Men
Organizations: Mental Floss · The Harry Potter Alliance · YouTube
Rituals: Four-minute rule
Terms: nerdfighter · world suck
Concepts: celebrity · government debt · health care prices in the United States · Wizard rock
Places: Amsterdam
Events: Syrian civil war
Replies to
- answers · TFiOS Movie, Emma Approved, Subbable Update, etc — “Hank, thanks for the update video, which might be even better than 12 seconds of silence”
Later videos replying to this one
- 2013-10-18 · Curiosity is the Greatest Human Quality (Hank) — answers — “I loved your video this week, really important I think, for, for us.” (00:02:39)