They Say it Gets Colder
2020-09-18 · explainer · Hank · 3:55 · watch on YouTube
Topic: Science & nature · mode: News analysis · tags: timely hook, self promotion, community lore
Prompted by this week's report of unexplained phosphine in Venus's atmosphere, Hank explains why Venus's temperate cloud layer is a candidate for microbial life and why the claim needs a mission to confirm, then argues that life elsewhere in the universe is not an extraordinary claim, since what happened once can probably happen again a lot.
What is said
The parts of the video and what is said in each (★ — how much it matters to the video).
00:00:00 — The habitable zone is about where we could live; Enceladus and Europa; Mars and Venus once habitable
- ★★ Hank says the search for Earth-like planets in a star's habitable zone is more about whether we could live there than whether there could be life there. — 00:00:00 · Earth
- ★★ Hank says the places outside Earth most conducive to life lie outside the habitable zone. — 00:00:00 · Earth
- ★★ Hank says Enceladus and Europa, icy moons of gas giants, definitely have giant oceans of liquid water beneath their icy surfaces. — 00:00:29
- ★★ Hank says Mars and Venus were probably habitable for a long time; Mars is in the habitable zone, Venus is not. (hedged) — 00:00:29 · Mars
00:00:58 — Venus: a hellish surface but a Florida-like, acidic cloud layer where microbes might live
- ★★ Hank says highs on Venus are about 900 degrees Celsius, hot enough to melt lead. — 00:00:58
- a number in question (doubtful): "900 degrees Celsius" — check against the recording
- ★★ Hank says the search for life in the solar system focused on Mars not because it is the best candidate but because it is much easier to work with. — 00:00:58 · Mars
- ★★ Hank says unexplained observations of Venus, such as cloud areas that darken, have led people to look at how life might exist there. — 00:00:58
- ★★★ Hank says higher up it gets cold enough for steam to condense into water droplets: 40 to 60 kilometres above Venus's surface, temperatures and pressures are like Florida. (playful) — 00:00:58 · Florida
- ★★ Hank says the droplets are highly concentrated sulfuric acid, and no life on Earth could live in water anything like that acidic. — 00:01:39 · Earth
- ★★ Hank describes the hypothesis: microbes might live in the droplets, go dormant as spores when falling droplets evaporate, and be tossed back up into the nicer atmosphere. (speculative) — 00:01:39
00:02:08 — This week's phosphine finding, possible explanations, and the need for extraordinary evidence
- ★★★ Hank says it was a big deal this week (week of 14 September 2020) when scientists announced a seemingly impossibly high concentration of phosphine in Venus's atmosphere. — 00:02:08
- ★★ Hank says phosphine is nasty for humans but some microorganisms, bacteria that don't use oxygen, produce it as a waste product. — 00:02:08
- ★★ Hank says phosphine cannot last long in Venus's atmosphere, since processes would break it down almost immediately, so something must be creating it. — 00:02:08
- ★★ Hank says an unknown geochemical process could produce the phosphine, and figuring that out would itself be a big deal. (hedged) — 00:02:38
- ★★ Citing 'extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence', Hank says proof of life would need a visit to Venus's upper atmosphere, as the paper's authors confirm. — 00:02:38
- ★★ Hank imagines a mission to Venus's upper atmosphere will happen in his lifetime, which he finds super exciting. (hedged) — 00:02:38
00:03:05 — Life elsewhere is not an extraordinary claim; sign-off
- ★★★ Hank says he doesn't think it is an extraordinary claim that there is life elsewhere in the universe. — 00:03:05
- ★★★ Hank argues that although we have never duplicated the chemistry of life's origin in a lab, it definitely happened, and what happens once can happen again, probably a lot. — 00:03:05
- ★★ Hank says life on a neighbouring planet would be extremely exciting but maybe not as surprising as one might think. (hedged) — 00:03:05
00:03:34 — Plug for SciShow Space
- ★★ Hank recommends SciShow Space, which covers this kind of topic twice a week on YouTube, hosted by him, Caitlin and Reid. — 00:03:34 · SciShow Space, YouTube
In the description and comments
- ★★ The description says alien life with clear signs of relation to Earth life would show that life can and does travel between planets. — video description · Earth
- ★★ The description says alien life clearly unrelated to Earth life would show that life arises relatively easily and that the universe is filled with living systems. — video description · Earth
- ★★ The description adds that life may be rare and may have arisen only once in our solar system; the only way to find out is to keep looking. — video description
- ★★ The description says that if life is found on another planet, we will be able to figure out pretty quickly whether it is related to life on Earth. — video description · Earth
Threads in this video
- variation · Vlogbrothers videos titled with Smash Mouth's All Star lyrics (2020) — The title They Say it Gets Colder continues the All Star lyric titles, echoed in Hank's line that above Venus's surface, they say it gets colder. (00:00:58)
- predicted · Hank: a mission to Venus's upper atmosphere to confirm life will happen in his lifetime (2020) — Hank imagines a mission to Venus's upper atmosphere will happen in his lifetime, which he finds super exciting. (00:02:38)
- restate · Is there intelligent life beyond Earth? — Hank says he doesn't think it is an extraordinary claim that there is life elsewhere in the universe. (00:03:05)
- predicted · Hank: if life is found on another planet, we will quickly tell whether it is related to Earth life (2020) — The description says that if life is found on another planet, we will be able to figure out pretty quickly whether it is related to life on Earth. (video description)
Where the stories that moved here went next
- Hank: a mission to Venus's upper atmosphere to confirm life will happen in his lifetime (2020) — unresolved; last: predicted, 2020-09-18
- Hank: if life is found on another planet, we will quickly tell whether it is related to Earth life (2020) — unresolved; last: repeated, 2025-09-12
Mentioned
Central: extraterrestrial life · phosphine · Venus
Also: Projects: SciShow Space
Works: Phosphine gas in the cloud decks of Venus
Organizations: YouTube
Concepts: abiogenesis · anaerobic organism · circumstellar habitable zone · Sagan standard · sulfuric acid
Places: Earth · Enceladus · Europa · Florida · Mars · Milky Way · Solar System
Only in the description or credits: Caitlin Hofmeister · Reid Reimers
Also centred on extraterrestrial life: Where are the Space Aliens?! · We just had our first interstellar visitor...and it's weird. · Aliens · Is it Good or Bad that we Haven't Met Aliens? · Fine, I'll Talk About the Drones… · This Might Actually be Happening
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