taking a break
2024-06-25 · letter vlog · John · 3:56 · watch on YouTube
Topic: Personal life (also: Internet & YouTube, Philosophy & meaning) · mode: Personal update · tags: heavy topic
After congratulating Hank on his comedy special, John says he will take July away from the internet because of depression: finishing his book feels like too much, and like Daniel Biss's clean water dumped into the toxic lake of Twitter he doubts his making stuff helps anyone; he closes by insisting that despair and hopelessness are lies.
What is said
The parts of the video and what is said in each (★ — how much it matters to the video).
00:00:00 — Congratulations on Hank's comedy special; John is taking time off for the first time in 17 and a half years
- ★★ John congratulates Hank on his comedy special: it is so good and John is so proud of him. — 00:00:00 · Hank Green
- ★★★ John is taking time off; in 17 and a half years of making videos he has never had to do this, and he feels really bad about it. — 00:00:00 · Vlogbrothers
- ★★ John says recent video titles such as How It All Ends, A Midlife Crisis and Not Doing That Great may indicate that he has not been doing that great. (hedged) — 00:00:00
00:00:29 — The plan (VidCon, then July away from the internet), depression, the book and nine months of struggling to make things
- ★★★ John will be at VidCon this weekend and online for a few days, then take July away from the internet entirely to see if it helps, and see how he feels in August. — 00:00:29 · VidCon
- ★★★ John can't tell where circumstances end and depression begins: he is in an objectively hard time he won't make public, but has had harder times without this much despair. — 00:00:29
- ★★ Depressed for quite a while, John finds it hard to judge what is real: everything great feels illusory and everything terrible utterly true. — 00:00:58
- ★★★ John must finish his book so it can come out next year (2025), and that alone feels like too much work for his depressed brain. — 00:00:58 · Everything Is Tuberculosis
- ★★★ For a little over nine months John has really struggled with making stuff. — 00:00:58
00:01:27 — Daniel Biss's toxic-lake analogy for Twitter and John's doubt whether his making stuff helps anyone
- ★★ John recently spoke with Brotherhood 2.0's resident mathematician Daniel Biss, now mayor of Evanston, Illinois, who explained why he left Twitter. — 00:01:27 · Daniel Biss, Brotherhood 2.0, Twitter
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★★★ Daniel Biss (quoted): Biss thought he brought clean water daily to Twitter's toxic lake, but realized he was only raising the toxic lake's level while ruining a bit of clean water. — 00:01:56 · Twitter
“I was dumping a bucket of clean water into a toxic lake”
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★★★ John says that is how he feels about making stuff now, especially on Twitter or TikTok but also everywhere. — 00:01:56 · Twitter, TikTok
- ★★★ John genuinely doesn't know whether he should be making anything, or whether his work helps anyone or only raises the level of the toxic lake. (unsure) — 00:01:56
00:02:26 — Overwhelmed and in despair, John needs time away; depression tells him his work is worthless
- ★★ John feels this less on Vlogbrothers than anywhere else on the internet. — 00:02:26 · Vlogbrothers
- ★★ Overwhelmed, with his nerves seemingly outside his body, John can't do it right now and needs time away to get it sorted. — 00:02:26
- ★★ John says he is currently a bit demented by despair, but knows he is not alone in that. — 00:02:26
- ★★ John says depression counters every worthwhile thing he tries to convince himself he has done by telling him the world would be better if he had not done it. — 00:02:26
00:03:05 — Goodbye for now: despair and hopelessness are lies, and John will work on telling himself so in July
- ★★ Depression convinces John that he is worthless and his work worse than worthless; he speaks from the bottom of the well. — 00:03:05
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★★★ As his goodbye for now, John says despair is a lie and hopelessness is a lie. — 00:03:05 · hope
“despair is a lie. Hopelessness is a lie.”
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★★★ John says no simple story can ever be true, and there is no simpler story than that nothing means anything. — 00:03:05
- ★★★ John tells viewers that their not being loved or worthy of love, and their passion, work and spark of consciousness not mattering, are lies. — 00:03:05
- ★★★ John says he struggles to tell himself this, and in July he will work on telling himself what he has told viewers all along: that hope sings the tune without the words and never stops at all. — 00:03:05 · hope
Threads in this video
- update · Pissing Out Cancer: Hank's stand-up comedy show about having cancer (2023) — John congratulates Hank on his comedy special: it is so good and John is so proud of him. (00:00:00)
- rule change · Vlogbrothers in 2024: the channel turns 17 and John may skip weeks (2024) — John will be at VidCon this weekend and online for a few days, then take July away from the internet entirely to see if it helps, and see how he feels in August. (00:00:29)
- told · John's 2024 depression and his month away from the internet (2024) — John can't tell where circumstances end and depression begins: he is in an objectively hard time he won't make public, but has had harder times without this much despair. (00:00:29) → refers to Not Doing That Great
- update · John reads widely about tuberculosis and 19th-century illness (2022) — John must finish his book so it can come out next year (2025), and that alone feels like too much work for his depressed brain. (00:00:58)
- restate · Is the internet, including social media, good for people? — John says that is how he feels about making stuff now, especially on Twitter or TikTok but also everywhere. (00:01:56)
- refine · Why make things? — John genuinely doesn't know whether he should be making anything, or whether his work helps anyone or only raises the level of the toxic lake. (00:01:56)
- restate · Is it reasonable to be hopeful about the future? — As his goodbye for now, John says despair is a lie and hopelessness is a lie. (00:03:05)
- restate · Does human life have real meaning, given oblivion, cosmic scale and an indifferent universe? — John says no simple story can ever be true, and there is no simpler story than that nothing means anything. (00:03:05)
- milestone · Everything Is Tuberculosis: John's nonfiction book about tuberculosis (2024) — John must finish his book so it can come out next year (2025), and that alone feels like too much work for his depressed brain. (00:00:58)
Where the stories that moved here went next
- Everything Is Tuberculosis: John's nonfiction book about tuberculosis (2024) — completed; last: looked back, 2026-10-20
- John's 2024 depression and his month away from the internet (2024) — followed over 9 videos (2024); last: update, 2024-09-17
- Pissing Out Cancer: Hank's stand-up comedy show about having cancer (2023) — told 6×, last update 2025
- John reads widely about tuberculosis and 19th-century illness (2022) — told 3×, last update 2026; last: retold, 2026-08-25
Mentioned
Central: depression · despair · hope
Also: People: Daniel Biss
Projects: Brotherhood 2.0 · VidCon
Works: "Hope" is the thing with feathers · Everything Is Tuberculosis · Hank Green's stand-up comedy special on Dropout
Organizations: TikTok · Twitter
Concepts: self-esteem
Places: Evanston, Illinois
Also centred on depression: Perspective · The Sycamore Tree: The Anthropocene Reviewed · Minus Its Charms · What Helped Through Depression
Also centred on despair: The Seduction of Despair · Gastrointestinal Hypermotility in Tuatara · Moving to Hope from Hopelessness (3 ways) · Despair is Not Wisdom
Replies to
- continues · Not Doing That Great — “Not Doing That Great”
- continues · A Midlife Crisis — “A Midlife Crisis”
- continues · how it all ends — “How It All Ends”
Later videos replying to this one
- 2024-07-09 · Is the Inside of Your Mouth a Soup? (a vidcon reunion video) (Hank) — refers back (update on John's 2024 depression and his month away from the internet (2024)) — John says people, including many AFC Wimbledon fans, have been kind and generous since his video about having a hard time, reminding him he is part of many great communities. (00:00:25)
- 2024-08-06 · What Helped Through Depression (John) — continues — “I think I said it in that last video I made.” (00:03:14)