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On Religion

2011-06-20 · letter vlog · John · 3:32 · watch on YouTube

Topic: Philosophy & meaning (also: Personal life) · mode: Personal essay · tags: community lore, punishment or challenge

John argues that people of all faiths and none live in functional nihilism yet all feel called to meaning; debating whether God exists avoids the deeper question of how to bring meaning to human life, which religion and secular humanism both answer.

What is said

The parts of the video and what is said in each (★ — how much it matters to the video).

00:00:00 — Why the brothers avoided religion; John's chaplaincy and divinity school enrolment

  • ★★ Nerdfighters often ask whether the brothers are religious; they have been reluctant to discuss it because the quality of internet discourse about religion is atrocious. — 00:00:01 · Nerdfighteria
  • ★★★ A decade ago John worked as a chaplain at a children's hospital, and he was briefly enrolled in, though never attended, the University of Chicago's divinity school. — 00:00:10

00:00:29 — Functional nihilism: we act like nihilists but feel called to meaning

  • ★★★ John submits that almost all human lives are lived in functional nihilism: very few believe life is meaningless, but almost all act as if they did. — 00:00:29

    “functional nihilism”

  • ★★ John could use his mind for cancer research, novels or quantum mechanics and his body to plant trees or fight wildfires, yet spends free time on TV, games and lols. — 00:00:47

  • ★★★ Christians, Muslims and atheists alike share this worldview: almost none would give up comforts to help others, so judged by actions humans look like nihilists. — 00:01:16
  • ★★★ But we are not nihilists, John says, because everyone feels called to make the world better, understand the universe, make art and contribute; everybody wants their life to matter. — 00:01:32 · meaning of life

00:01:44 — Why John won't debate God's existence: the fire analogy; religion and humanism answer the call to meaning

  • ★★★ That call to meaning founds religious and successful secular worldviews alike, which is why John doesn't care to debate the existence of God. — 00:01:44
  • ★★ Analogy: woken by smoke and an invisible voice shouting that the house is on fire, John wouldn't care whether the voice was God or a fireman; he'd just leave. — 00:01:56
  • ★★★ For John, debating the mere existence of God is a way of avoiding the deeper, more devastating question of how to bring meaning to human life. — 00:02:12 · meaning of life
  • ★★★ John says that, broadly speaking, religion is essentially a response to revelation calling us to embrace meaning, or create it if it doesn't innately exist; the same holds for atheistic humanism. — 00:02:21
  • ★★★ Everyone faces the same question, what to do with our consciousness: fight poverty, climate change, disease or war, or spend everything on a perfectly manicured, weed-free lawn. — 00:02:32

00:02:46 — Aside: John's neighbour and the lawn

  • ★ John is on a lawn kick because his next-door neighbour is unhappy that John left the country for two months during lawn-growing season; the lawn is full of dandelions. (playful) — 00:02:46

00:02:58 — Balancing meaning with funny stuff; Nerdfighteria asks these questions through many lenses

  • ★★★ John: how to balance the urge to be more than nihilists with blunting consciousness's sharp edges through funny stuff like Paula Deen riding Paula Deen riding him, or Humpy Hank. — 00:02:58 · Hank Green
  • ★★★ Nerdfighteria has discussed these questions for years, some through a religious lens and some through a secular one; the lens interests John less than the questions. — 00:03:10 · Nerdfighteria

00:03:20 — Baby rhinoceros, 36 sandwiches as penance, sign-off

  • ★★ Apologising that the video had few jokes, John shows a baby rhinoceros and, as penance, says he will eat 36 disgusting sandwiches on Friday (24 June 2011). (playful) — 00:03:20 · Punishment

In the description and comments

  • ★★ In the description John invites viewers to continue the conversation about religion in Your Pants (yourpants.org). — video description

Threads in this video

Where the stories that moved here went next

Mentioned

Central: existence of God · meaning of life · nihilism · religion

Also: People: Paula Deen

Organizations: University of Chicago Divinity School

Rituals: Punishment

Concepts: atheism · Christianity · consciousness · Islam · lawn · revelation · secular humanism

Only in the description or credits: Your Pants

Also centred on existence of God: Do You Believe in God? · My Religion

Also centred on nihilism: Against Nihilism

Also centred on religion: On Iran, Islam, and Amazingly Stupid Comments · On Religion (Redux) · Religion and Gay Marriage · Death, Love, and John's Religion: The Big Questions Take Over Question Tuesday

Later videos replying to this one

Part of an exchange of 3 videos, 2011-06-20 – 2011-06-24.