Rough Week
2023-05-23 · letter vlog · John · 3:57 · watch on YouTube
Topic: Personal life (also: Projects) · mode: Personal essay · tags: heavy topic, community lore
As Hank starts chemo, John lists the funny sides of his cancer (the pelican tweet, the new-thing website resetting for chemotherapy) and argues such humor works only when it feels like love rather than judgment, since grief and humor must live together; he offers a prayer and, as temporary CEO of DFTBA and Complexly, thanks staff and community.
What is said
The parts of the video and what is said in each (★ — how much it matters to the video).
00:00:00 — A rough week: love for Hank as he starts chemo, and the brothers laughing on the phone
- ★★★ After a rough week and couple of months, John tells Hank, who is starting chemo, that he loves him and that many people are in his corner. — 00:00:00 · Hank Green, chemotherapy
- ★★ The brothers laughed so much on the phone that Sarah asked what was so funny; Hank's lymphoma is not hilarious, but it has funny aspects. — 00:00:12 · Sarah Urist Green
- ★★ John found it funny that Hank tweeted he was getting chemo and asked for pelican pictures, then minutes later apologized in case that was how people found out. (playful) — 00:00:24 · Twitter, chemotherapy
00:00:29 — The funny sides: the pelican tweet, the All Star Tumblr post, the new-thing website, YouTube's confetti; where John has seen this before
- ★★ John enjoyed a Tumblr post wondering which line of All Star Hank would have used as a title had this happened in the Vlogbrothers All Star era; John guesses Hank would pick an abstract one. (playful) — 00:00:29 · Tumblr, Vlogbrothers
- ★★ With Hank's enthusiastic encouragement, the website counting days since Hank started a new thing reset to zero, the new thing being not a channel or soap company but chemotherapy. (playful) — 00:00:43 · Days Since Hank Green Last Started a New Thing, chemotherapy
- ★★ Less intentionally funny: the brothers' YouTube account effectively said sorry about the cancer but congratulations on the views, with confetti. (playful) — 00:00:58 · YouTube, cancer
- ★★ John has seen illness and humor coexist many times: as a chaplain, as a child, and during his own serious health problems. — 00:01:08
- ★★ John says their dad had cancer twice when the brothers were little. — 00:01:08 · Mike Green, cancer
- ★★★ John says serious illness is awful and terrifying and not usually funny, but it sometimes is when the laughs come from love and understanding. — 00:01:17
00:01:27 — When humor works: love not judgment, context, Chris's itises line, grief and humor living together, accompaniment
- ★★ John did not find it funny when someone described Hank as some kind of YouTuber but with cancer: it tries to be clever, but ick. — 00:01:27 · Hank Green, YouTube
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★★★ For humor to work it has to feel like love rather than judgment, inclusion rather than stigma, celebration rather than dismissal, which is a tough balance. — 00:01:37
“the humor has to feel like love rather than judgment, like inclusion rather than stigma”
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★★ Well-intentioned people, John included, sometimes get it wrong, and it depends on who is saying it and the context. — 00:01:44
- ★★ When John was hospitalized with meningitis, his best friend Chris greeted him by saying he thought John had already had all the itises; hilarious from Chris, less so from a doctor. — 00:01:50
- ★★★ John does not understand how grief, fear and uncertainty live alongside humor, but knows they must, because life in all its complexity and paradox is still life. — 00:02:00
- ★★ John says Partners In Health talks a lot about accompaniment: walking someone's path with them so they don't feel alone, always listening and helping when you can. — 00:02:14 · Partners In Health
00:02:26 — Accompaniment as key to a good life, and John's prayer for Hank and all of us
- ★★★ For PIH accompaniment is key to good health care; John thinks for all of us it is key to a good life. — 00:02:26 · Partners In Health
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★★★ Since Hank said he was fine with prayers, John prays for him and for all of us that we be justified in our hope and unalone in our sorrow. — 00:02:34 · Hank Green, hope
“I pray that we may be justified in our hope and unalone in our sorrow.”
00:02:55 — John as temporary CEO of DFTBA and Complexly; thanks to over 100 employees and to the community
- ★★★ John asks people to spare a thought for the employees of DFTBA and Complexly, who now have him, a store-brand Hank Green, as temporary CEO. (playful) — 00:02:55 · DFTBA Records, Complexly
- ★★ John now understands concretely that Hank does a lot of things very well, and says he will do some of them less well. (playful) — 00:03:07 · Hank Green
- ★★ John says the world still needs Crash Course, SciShow and everything else Complexly makes. — 00:03:14 · Crash Course, SciShow, Complexly
- ★★ Colleagues from Missoula to Sierra Leone count on the brothers to continue the Awesome Coffee and Socks clubs and everything else DFTBA makes. — 00:03:24 · Missoula, Montana, Sierra Leone, Awesome Coffee Club, Awesome Socks Club, DFTBA Records
- ★★ John thanks the over 100 people who work for DFTBA and Complexly for stepping up and supporting each other. — 00:03:30 · DFTBA Records, Complexly
- ★★ John thanks everyone in the community for their kindness toward the brothers and each other; it has meant a lot this week (week of 22 May 2023). — 00:03:38 · Nerdfighteria
00:03:51 — Sign-off: whether or not Hank posts on Friday
- ★ John tells Hank he will see him soon, whether or not he sees him on Friday. (unsure) — 00:03:51 · Hank Green
In the description and comments
- ★ In a comment John says the brothers' no-phone-calls rule was only in 2007; they have long been back to phone calls. — creator comment
Humor (significant)
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Hank tweets that he is getting chemo and asks for pelican pictures, then follows up minutes later. — 00:00:29
“I'm sorry if this is how you found out.”
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The website counting days since Hank started a new thing resets to zero, the new thing being not a channel or a soap company. — 00:00:58
“or a soap company, but chemotherapy.”
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Visiting John in hospital with meningitis, his best friend Chris has a first remark ready. — 00:01:56
“I thought you'd already had all of the itises”
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John introduces himself as the temporary CEO who replaces Hank at DFTBA and Complexly. — 00:02:55
“Kirkland brand Hank Green”
Threads in this video
- update · Hank's Hodgkin lymphoma diagnosis and chemotherapy (2023) — As Hank starts chemo, John has become temporary CEO of DFTBA and Complexly in his place. (00:02:55)
- callback · Vlogbrothers videos titled with Smash Mouth's All Star lyrics (2020) — John enjoyed a Tumblr post wondering which line of All Star Hank would have used as a title had this happened in the Vlogbrothers All Star era; John guesses Hank would pick an abstract one. (00:00:29)
- callback · Hank's habit of constantly starting new things, tracked by the 'days since Hank Green last started a new thing' website (2021) — With Hank's enthusiastic encouragement, the website counting days since Hank started a new thing reset to zero, the new thing being not a channel or soap company but chemotherapy. (00:00:43)
- mentioned · John's time as a student chaplain at a children's hospital (c. 2000) — John has seen illness and humor coexist many times: as a chaplain, as a child, and during his own serious health problems. (00:01:08)
- retold · John's viral meningitis and hospitalisation (2014) — When John was hospitalized with meningitis, his best friend Chris greeted him by saying he thought John had already had all the itises; hilarious from Chris, less so from a doctor. (00:01:50)
- milestone · Complexly: the brothers' production company, renamed from EcoGeek (2016) — With Hank starting chemo, John becomes temporary CEO of Complexly and DFTBA. (00:02:55)
- milestone · Awesome Coffee Club: the brothers' coffee subscription for charity (2022) — Colleagues from Missoula to Sierra Leone count on the brothers to continue the Awesome Coffee and Socks clubs and everything else DFTBA makes. (00:03:24)
- told · John's stint as reluctant temporary CEO of DFTBA.com during Hank's cancer (2023) — John asks people to spare a thought for the employees of DFTBA and Complexly, who now have him, a store-brand Hank Green, as temporary CEO. (00:02:55)
Where the stories that moved here went next
- Complexly: the brothers' production company, renamed from EcoGeek (2016) — running; last: looked back, 2026-07-03
- Awesome Coffee Club: the brothers' coffee subscription for charity (2022) — completed; last: looked back, 2024-10-30
- Hank's Hodgkin lymphoma diagnosis and chemotherapy (2023) — told 34×, last update 2026; last: retold, 2026-10-09
- John's stint as reluctant temporary CEO of DFTBA.com during Hank's cancer (2023) — told 3×, stopped by 2023 (as told); last: retold, 2023-10-06
Mentioned
Central: accompaniment · cancer · humour
Also: People: Chris Waters · Mike Green · Sarah Urist Green
Projects: Awesome Coffee Club · Awesome Socks Club · Complexly · Crash Course · DFTBA Records · SciShow
Works: All Star · Days Since Hank Green Last Started a New Thing
Organizations: Partners In Health · Tumblr · Twitter · YouTube
Concepts: chemotherapy · grief · hope · lymphoma · meningitis · pelican
Places: Missoula, Montana · Sierra Leone
Products: Kirkland Signature
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